KG: This is not a constructive use of time.
I will not spend Ramadan arguing on the internet about honor killings.
I will not spend Ramadan arguing on the internet about honor killings.
I will not spend Ramadan arguing on the internet about honor killings.
- deep breath –
Just once, though, I would like to see a debate that goes something like this:
Person 1:
“The only country to use nuclear weapons is the United States.
Most Americans are Christian.
Therefore, using nuclear weapons is a Christian practice.
Therefore, if we want to calm the nuclear arms race, we must engage with these Christians by asking them to re-interpret the parts of the Bible that say ‘thou shalt bomb Japan.’ What is that, Leviticus? Whatever. Look it up. Anyway, I’m sure there are ways to do this that are sensitive to the other, less crazy parts of their religion.”
Person 2:
“But the fact that most Americans are Christians has nothing to do with Hiroshima and Nagasaki! There were political factors at play! Besides, Israel and Pakistan both have nukes, and they’re not Christian countries. And there are many Christian countries that don’t have them. It’s much more complex than that.”
Person 3:
“Are you saying the killing of thousands of people is ‘complex’? What’s complex about it? It’s mass murder! Wow, you’ve really gone off the deep end of moral relativism! Why are you always apologizing for these people?”
Person 2:
“No, I didn’t mean murder is complex, I meant the reasons for… ugh, never mind.”
- headdesk –
—kufigirl
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Ayisha at 25 September 07 :: #
Hear hear! I love your arguments!
nh at 25 September 07 :: #
this is pure genius.
Devin at 25 September 07 :: #
You sir, are my hero. I just finished a similar argument with one of the monks on my campus… (Catholic Uni).
fathima at 25 September 07 :: #
you are many kinds of awesome.
myself, i try to refrain from arguing on the internet whenever. i have only so much heartspace.
rashad at 1 October 07 :: #
If you wanna win people over by argument, you’ve got to do better than that. Your logic is totally flawed. It’s called an inductive fallacy. I can do it too.
Premise: America bombs innocent Iraqis
Premise: Bob is American
Conclusion: Killing innocent Iraqis is one of Bob's practices.
Now fatima and your other supporters are worried ‘cuz they think Bob likes killing innocent Iraqis. It’s ok, take a deep breath and read it again slowly.
HM's Edit: My apologies for editing your comment, but as I am not just blogging here, i'd appreciate leaving the HM name out of it. Thanks. Btw, I don't think you got KufiGirl's point.KufiGirl at 1 October 07 :: #
Rashad: Yes, I understand it’s a logical flaw. That’s my point — when people say “honor killings happen in [some] majority-Muslim countries, therefore Islam must support honor killings,” they’re using the same misguided logic. It gets tiresome to read over and over and over again.
(Also, in case it wasn’t clear, HijabMan didn’t make this entry — it was me.)
SAK at 2 October 07 :: #
KG, I’m thinking of printing this post in an Eid card to everyone I know. Brilliant.